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Harold

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PostSubject: carb questions   carb questions EmptyTue Jun 10, 2008 1:37 am

Im looking into changing out carbs. Im not happy with the stock q-jet and thinking of edlebrock. How much difference is there between a 600 and 650 cfm? Should I spend the extra money for the thunder series or stick with the performer which is $100 less. See everyone at Big Al's this weekend.
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PostSubject: Re: carb questions   carb questions EmptyTue Jun 10, 2008 3:15 pm

Here's the difference's between EDELBROCK's Performer & Thunder series carbs:

-The Performers come in 600 or 750 cfm, non adjustable secondaries.

-The Thunders come in 650 or 800 cfm, have adjustable secondaries and some cosmetic differences.

Back in the day CARTER put out a chart that claimed a perfectly running small block chevy could only effectively use around 650 cfm. I doubt you will notice much of a difference between the two. Most people dont need adjustable secondaries.

Most 4x4 guys will tell you that a Q-Jet is better for hill climbing and off-angle use, but thats only if its in good running condition. Most original GM Q-Jets are getting really old and becoming un-rebuildable.

If you go EDELBROCK, I would recomend you upgrade to the OFFROAD needle and seat kit and definitely dont be affraid to take the top off and spend some time adjusting the floats.

~John Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: carb questions   carb questions EmptyTue Jun 10, 2008 11:11 pm

I think John would be the one who would know the difference... he sells them and probably has to know the difference because he gets that question often! BTW John- thanks for getting all that stuff in one pile for easier quicker shopping for me so I didn't have to wait for them to look up each part and possibly forget something. As it was, I forgot to add that I wanted a thermostat and housing...but I got that now. Now I am stumped on brackets for my BBC... I got a lower alternator bracket and a lower PS bracket... but need the top ones! I might end up having to order your chromie kit unless you have it is stock.
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PostSubject: Re: carb questions   carb questions EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 12:01 am

sounds like john giving you some good honest info
i agree with what he had to say . how ever stay with in your budget you can allways up grade . and gives you good trading stalk. good luck man
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PostSubject: Re: carb questions   carb questions EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 12:40 am

Is there another carb out there that would be better? Supposedly the Thunder is the best on the market but it seems everyone says their brands the best.
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PostSubject: Re: carb questions   carb questions EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 12:49 am

I have heard a lot of good things about the Holley Truck Avenger... but no personal experience since I am a small dollar guy!
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PostSubject: Re: carb questions   carb questions EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 1:44 am

I am too. I don't make much working and there always those bills to pay. Theses bogs get me through working.
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PostSubject: Re: carb questions   carb questions EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 2:21 pm

We get a lot of positive feedback on the Truck Avenger for all around 4x4 use. They aren't cheap. We (General Store Auto Parts) are still selling it for $399, but that wont last long. Prices are going nuts. Summit is already up to $426 plus handling on it. Its a 670 cfm unit w/electric choke (#0-90670).

If you're just bogging and not side hilling and climbing you cant beat an old-school Holley double pumper for straight line pure performance. You can save a little money by getting a factory re-man unit. We sell a 650 DP re-manufactured for $318.99, same as Summit but w/o the handling fee.

~John Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: carb questions   carb questions EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 11:12 pm

I've looked at those too. Been wondering if it would work good with the Edlebrock torker II intake manifold I bought. I haven't installed it yet because I don't want to be moved up a class. Am I going to see much improvement or should I just start building a new engine this winter? I kinda like what I hear about the 383.
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PostSubject: Re: carb questions   carb questions EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 11:59 pm

well if you ask me... $318 for the Holley and $399 for the Avenger... you are tossing out $300+ out of your pocket whichever you decide on. I would suggest the better carb even if you are only planning on straight line racing... the extra $81 you are spending is so litlte compared to how much is coming out of your pocket already. If you buy the $318 carb and decide to upgrade to the $399 carb that will soon be $426... that is nearly $800 out of your pocket after sales tax and gaskets! Buy the best part the first time if you are gonna spend the money. Wish I always followed this advice myself!
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PostSubject: Re: carb questions   carb questions EmptyThu Jun 12, 2008 9:37 pm

I went ahead and bought the Edlebrock Performer. Installing it tomarrow. Will post the out come.
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PostSubject: Re: carb questions   carb questions EmptyThu Aug 07, 2008 11:00 am

I guess if you already bought the edelbrock go out and spring for the available offroad kit for it too. It is not that expensive . As crummy as those carbs' are in off camber situations this should help some.
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PostSubject: Re: carb questions   carb questions EmptyThu Aug 07, 2008 3:48 pm

THe spring kit will also help with bouncy conditions too. I was going down hill over some rocks with the local IH club, and the Brown Trout kept wanting to die on me every time I suddenly dropped the nose off a rock. Inertia would keep the floats up, and the carb would thing it was full, thus starving itself.
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PostSubject: Re: carb questions   carb questions EmptyWed Jul 01, 2009 3:23 pm

I know, I know. But I just found this site. Now for those of you that want to make the Edelbrock performer carb. work in all conditions I have a few tricks that will make it almost as good as F.I. Call me and we can talk 467-4177
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